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Ponder This . . .

The Old Testament Patriarchs did it. The Prophets did it. Jesus and the Apostles did it. The Early Church Fathers did it. The Reformers did it. The Puritans did it. Then, in the last century or two, someone figured out what all of them had missed for those thousands of years. I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God, so this one thing troubles me: Why did God not providentially place a couple of Southern Baptists in Cana of Galilee on that fateful wedding day to prevent his son from doing such a foolish thing?

Update:
Read How Does It Feel To Exclude Jesus From Your Denomination? by Brent Thomas.
Read The Sword and Spirits, Drinking with Jesus, & Akin on Alcohol by Joe Thorn (HT: Timmy Brister).

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1. 06·06·18··22:50
Doug

lol

2. 06·06·19··09:38
Ken Fields

David,

The answer to your question/riddle is simple, and one that all good Baptists have been taught: the wedding wine at Cana contained so little alcohol it was incapable of making anyone drunk.

That's what we've been told anyway!!!

3. 06·06·19··10:11
David

Ken,

Yes, that's what I've been told, too. Actually, I was taught it had no alcohol at all; but why did it take almost two millennia to figure that out? This is clearly a modern understanding of history.

4. 06·06·19··11:38
Ken Fields

Maybe a bit of "revisionist history"???!!!

5. 06·06·20··05:16
Garry Weaver

Here is the IFB response: "I'll drink all the wine you can make out of water."

6. 06·06·20··09:51
Nathan

As we all know, NT wine was so diluted that you would have to drink gallons and gallons of it to become intoxicated. You would need "strong drink" to get smashed, because "wine" just wouldn't do the trick. Thus Paul wrote, "Be not drunk with grape juice."

7. 06·06·20··10:02
David

Thanks, Nathan, that clears it up. Now, if someone could exegete Deuteronomy 14:26 for me, it would be very helpful.

You may spend the money [tithe] for whatever your heart desires: for oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever your heart desires; and there you shall eat in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household.

8. 06·06·20··18:51
DLE

As someone who plans to grow wine grapes on his property, I know a few things about wine.

Totally natural fermentation of grapes, without using special yeasts or fiddling with alcohol levels, will yield a wine of about 7-9% alcohol in most cases. You'll find current light whites with this percentage of alcohol. (Many contemporary German wines are in this range.)

To balance the fruit in wines today (because so many desire a "fruit forward" flavor), many wines are in the 10-15% range, especially reds.

Is it more alcohol? Yes. Still, you drink a whole bottle of something in the 7-9% range and you'll be trippin'.

Those that claim that the wine of Jesus' day was boiled or <5% alcohol are grasping at straws. They should also read Psalm 104. And what to think of the fact that Jesus used all those vineyard references in His parables?

9. 06·06·21··08:33
David

Dan,

You definitely know more about this than I do, but in my experience, naturally fermented juice turns to vinegar. Yuck!

You're right, the whole "wine back then was Welch's" story is pretty contrived.

10. 06·06·22··16:49
Scott

As a Southern Baptist, I still can't figure out why Jesus would have saved the best grape juice until the end. I mean everyone knows that you bring out the new stuff first, let them get drunk and then you bring out the cheap...oh wait, if it was grape juice the account all of a sudden doesn't make sense. Nevermind.


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