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I promise this is not going to become a political blog. But since politics is a part of the life of every citizen, and it is a Christian’s duty to be a good citizen, politics will be addressed here from time to time. Especially now. I do promise, though, that I will get all this off my chest and out of my system very soon and get back to more pleasant things. But I warn you: this may not be pretty. Lovers of soft, gentle words may want to move on.
Everyone out who wants out? Okay, here we go: some more post-election lamentations.
- Voting your conscience.
As opposed to voting for John McCain of course; because McCain is [fill in the blank]. I know all too well that McCain was no great conservative hope; but seriously . . .- “McCain or Obama, what’s the difference?”
What an ignorant question. What a willfully ignorant question, and in many cases, I believe, a dishonest question. So ignorant and/or dishonest that doesn’t even merit an answer. Go read the record for yourself. If you still can’t see it, my condolences on your lobotomy. - The “lesser evil.”
Those of you who eschewed voting for “the lesser of evils” in favor of a third-party or independent candidate, I’ve got news for you. Unless you wrote in “Jesus Christ,” you voted for a lesser evil. A vote for any of the apostles would have been a vote for a lesser evil. Your best option in any election will always be a lesser evil. When your wife chose you over those other guys she (I hope) chose the lesser evil. (Will the ladies please invert that proposition.) So the difference between you and me is not that only one of us voted for a lesser evil, but that only one of us will admit it. Oh, there is one more difference. I voted for a candidate that could conceivably have defeated the greater evil. Which brings me to my next point: yes, I voted pragmatically. - The pragmatic choice.
Pragmatism is not a dirty word. Read the Proverbs and take note that wisdom often seems very pragmatic. Yes, there are times when ethics trump pragmatic considerations, but simply charging “Pragmatism!” is a meaningless accusation. We ought always to be pragmatic. Consider the pragmatism of William Wilberforce in accepting incremental advances against slavery. If he had continually demanded immediate, total abolition, and had been willing to settle for nothing less, who knows when — or if — slavery would have been abolished in the British Empire? But as it happened, we credit abolition of British slavery to Wilberforce’s perseverance and willingness to take what he could get when he could get it. Yet, if he had been running for office today, you would have voted for the guy standing in the corner, ideally perfect, but with no audience, constituency, influence, or hope of ever having any; because a vote for Wilberforce would be “pragmatic.” - I voted pragmatically and voted my conscience.
I am frankly sick of the pseudo-pious pontifications to the contrary. My conscience required that I vote to defeat Obama. It did not require that I “make a statement,” “send a message,” or make any other such token gesture. It required that I do something that was potentially effective, not merely symbolic. It did not require me to do something that would give me a warm feeling inside. I’m afraid many of you are confusing good feelings with a clear conscience. Many times a clear conscience comes with conflicting emotions, like those I had when I voted for John McCain, and George W. Bush, Bob Dole, and George H. W. Bush before him; but my conscience was clear. On the other hand, I could have voted for another candidate who I dearly wish could have had a chance, and gotten some personal satisfaction out of it; but my conscience would not have been clear, because I would have done nothing of substance at all.
- “McCain or Obama, what’s the difference?”
- I’m a racist, I suppose.
I am not the least bit excited that Obama is black. I couldn’t care less. I don’t think this is a wonderful day in American history because we have elected a black President. This in no way indicates any improvement in “race” relations. The very fact that people are making a big deal about it proves that. The fact that vast numbers of people, by their own admission, voted for Obama because of his color, and that others who could not vote for him wish that they could have because of his color tells me that color holds a place of significance that it should not. When the day comes when people no longer speak of “race” at all, especially as a factor in making choices between individuals, then I will recognize that something important has happened. I do not think of Obama as a black man. I think of him as an extraordinarily evil man. There’s nothing exciting about that. - America may just have reached the point of no return.
If Obama is successful in instituting the draconian changes he has promised, this Republic is as good as dead. And why not? Perhaps God is sending his own message. Perhaps he is saying, “Alright, you cherish your right to sin? I’m going to take away your liberty to do righteously. You want a little bit of socialism? I’ll give you a Marxist President, with friendly majorities in both houses if Congress. You want to kill babies? You’re going to kill them until you’re sitting old and alone, with no one to teach in your schools, no one to do your scientific research, no one to staff your hospitals, no one to work in your factories, no one to farm the land, no one to man your military and defend your borders, no one to care for you, no one to pay the taxes to fund your socialist utopia. I’m going to give your once-great nation to whomever has the strength to take it; and you, and the few children you do have, will serve them. They will circumscribe the limits of your freedom. They will tell you what may do, what you may say, and how you may worship. You asked for it.” - Finally, government is not the answer.
Maybe now Christians will take seriously this exhortation. It is way past time for those who call themselves conservatives to start playing the part and stop looking to government for salvation.
I will be praying for this new President, and I hope you will, too; but I will not simply be praying some vague prayer that God will bless him. I will be praying, as James White suggests in this YouTube video, for his salvation. I will be praying that God will remove his heart of stone and give him a heart of flesh and grant him repentance. Until that happens, I will be praying for his failure. I will be praying that God will restrain him and prevent him from accomplishing any part of his evil agenda.
I will definitely be praying for long life for every Supreme Court Justice.












23 Comments:
Kristina
Well said, David, well said. I'm so tired of being told I somehow dishonored God by trying to determine which of the two candidates would be less wicked in office and then voting accordingly. I think your point that unless we wrote in Christ Jesus we will always be voting for some sort of evil is an excellent one, and one that people can lose sight of easily.
heldveld
I voted 3rd party for the first time this year. First and foremost because I thought that both candidates thought that government is the answer. Secondly because in my state (MI) a vote for McCain wouldn't have helped. So I won't pontificate pseudo-piously about your decision to do so. Yet I don't think what I did was a 'token gesture' or that it was not potentially effective and merely symbolic- any more than a vote for McCain would have been.
Thanks for that reminder. We should all be doing that.
Marla
Reading this post was very cathartic. These are the thoughts that have been rolling around in my head since Tuesday night. Yesterday it seemed everywhere I turned people were trying to put a "happy" spin on things and pretend Obama is something he is not. I feel like Alice in Wonderland.
Christians don't seem to realize that God can and does ordain events that chasten. I guess this is the fruit of all the bad doctrine being taught in America's churches.
Betsy Markman
You made some excellent points. I had been tempted to vote 3rd party, and felt a bit guilty that I went ahead and voted for McCain. I won't judge those who voted 3rd party, but it's good to see this perspective on the choice that I did make.
Doug
David,
I assume mine was one name on your mind in the "lesser of two evils" portion of this post. While it is true that any vote not for Jesus is the lesser of two evils (Luke 11:13), there is also the matter of a voting record that not only endorses the deaths of children in their embryonic state, but also seeks to make concerned Christians such as you and I pay for it.
That is a big reason why I did not vote for McCain. Steve Deace did not talk me out of voting McCain. He pointed out aspects of my political views that were, and are, inconsistent. Once I took a step back and realized that our choice was an man who would seek to do the evil he promised and another man who would try to explain how his own evil isn't as bad as the alternative.
I voted Chuck Baldwin on the Constitution Party, in case that helps.
Finally, if you would care to read some NON-Deace words about the church and politics, Alan Keyes has some interesting words to consider.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79979
David
Doug, you were on my mind, but only among the countless voices I’ve heard present that argument over the last thirty or so years, so I was definitely not singling you out. If I wanted to do that, I’d just send you a nasty private email. After all, I am a gentleman.
I like Alan Keyes, in general. I even voted for him in a primary once. I still think his argument is lame. Not because there is no truth in it, but because it represents a mindset that is not only not of the world, but is blind to the realities of being in the world. I understand the feelings and motives behind it, as I’ve been on the edge of voting that way myself several times. But it’s just not grounded in reality.
The reality is that after the primaries, there are only two men in the race. If I believe there is any difference at all between them, I have an obligation to choose the lesser evil.
Doug
Understood. I can't say that I agree, but I may very well agree in 4 years.
Remember the 4 years of Carter? The nation will be ready for another Reagan. But I am not convinced that there is a Reagan to be found in the Republican party. And if they can be found, the Republican party will likely do all they can to bury that person as quickly as possible.
Three very conservative candidates in Iowa were buried in Iowa this election season, being uninvited to campaign stops by both McCain and Palin. Uninvited by the Republican party that claims that they want to oust Tom Harkin and Leonard Boswell.
They did not get their candidates names out there or assist them financially, though they won the primaries comfortably. Is it because the Republican doesn't think they can win against Tom Harkin? Or is it because the current Republican party is too drunk with the money that Harkin brings into the state to oppose him?
Dude, I know Iowa politics isn't your thing, but if you have an hour to spare, you gotta see this debate between Harkin and the guy who opposed him (Christopher Reed). Reed had never run for office before, but you wouldn't know it with the way he held Harkin's toes to the fire. The best thing is that Harkin didn't take him seriously... at first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9g4ge1oT74
Hmm... Maybe we do have a future Reagan...
David
Boy do I remember Carter. I scream his name every time a certain local talk radio idiot starts ranting about how “Bush is the worst President we’ve ever had!” and “McCain is the worst Presidential candidate ever!” Seriously, he says exactly that.
I’ll check out that debate when I get a chance. Our state politics are frustrating. Normally, my vote makes no difference. ND always votes for the Republican President (although it was close this time) but elects Democrats to Congress by a landslide. Why? Because we’re generally against abortion and sodomy and want a strong foreign policy and military, but we’re also a state of elderly farmers, addicted to handouts.
Cassie
It's not over yet. Obama still has to prove he is a citizen of the US. He has phoney birth certificates-remember his mysterious trip to Hawaii (supposedly to visit his sick grandmother, yet he hasn't been back there to go to her funeral). Just my opinion, but I think he went there to get another phoney birth certificate. But, there is a lawyer who has a case against him saying he was born in Kenya. Let's pray the Supreme Court holds up to their job and sticks with the Constitution which says that unles you are a natural-born citizen, you cannot be president of the US. Go to www.colony14.net and read the things about him there. And you can also go to www.obamacrimes.com to read about the case. I believe they are having it November 12-I might be mistaken.
Lucy
Wow. This country is on its knees because people like you have shot us in the foot every election voting for the "lesser evil".
And, since everyone except Jesus Christ is a lesser evil, you, then, as a Christian are bound to write-in Jesus Christ everytime. Man cannot serve two masters, and willingly requesting an evil master is very anti-Christ.
It's all well and good to be anti-abortion, but why don't you try being pro-life?
David
Lucy,
1. Please explain the damage I have done by voting for the best candidate in the race — which is exactly what I have done, because, let’s face it, after the primaries there are only two real candidates outside of Neverland. Or is this a joke, like when Ralph Nader said Al Gore cost him the election?
2. Did you write in “Jesus Christ”? Do you do that in every election? If not, what’s your point?
3. Exactly what do you mean by implying that I am not pro-life? No empty rhetoric, now; I want specifics.
Joy
Great post. I had been thinking the same thing about the argument of voting for the lesser of two evils that you brought out. I just happened to see a link to your blog on a friend's facebook and I'm glad I did. Thanks for your 'post election lamentations', you hit the nail on the head.
EmilyD
Bingo! Excellent points, just excellent. I feel like you've been looking inside my head. I was committed to voting third party but suffered a change of heart on election eve - after praying until my knees were numb - and arriving at the same conclusions you so very articulately stated in your post. Thank you! I will be sharing a link to this with others.
Dianne Goldstein
You disgrace the entire meaning of showing proper respect to those in authority. The greek word "honor" that you find in Romans 13 and elsewhere in the NT is the same word used in "honor your parents." Disagree with O's policies, vigorously, but you must show honor. And frankly, if evil were to accurately describe him, your degrees of evil are way off. Nero was king when Paul and Peter both wrote to submit to authorities. So, do one of two things: 1) Remove the word "Theologian" from your moniker, or 2) Start obeying Scripture and get it right.
rixon
Had I been a U.S. citizen and voted, I would not have voted for Obama. Still, calling Obama an extraordinarily evil man is not going to help matters. We need to pray for him - and remind ourselves of just how evil we all are, in God’s eyes.
David
Dianne,
1. If you can show me where I have encouraged anyone to not submit to authority, I will gladly recant.
2. The President is not a king. He has no authority in himself, but only the duty to administer the law. I do not submit to a President but to the Constitution, to which he and all other public officials are bound to administer and submit. This is a lesson you and a great number of Americans need to learn.
3. While the Apostles commanded submission to authority, they were willing to die obeying God rather than men. And calling Obama evil is in no way a violation of any biblical command. He is evil. I wonder, how do you feel about John the Baptist’s treatment of Herod, which cost him his head?
rixon,
I believe identifying the facts accurately helps a great deal. This country is where it is because we have refused to call evil, “evil.” Observing that we have elected an extraordinarily evil man ought to be one of the things that reminds us of how evil we are. And that is not in opposition to praying for him.
Rita Martinez
David: Amen.
Especially part II about racism...
Amy
I agree that racism is alive and well, but I still think it can be seen as positive step that it's even possible someone of another race can be president. This would not have been possible 100 years ago.
A step of progress does not have to mean all is healed.
The Happy Housewife
Great, great post! I could not agree more with point #2. In my mind, this confirms that we are still a country fixated on race. I said almost the same thing to my husband on Wednesday morning. It saddens me that people would vote for someone just because of the color of their skin.
Thanks for getting these points out there!
Toni
Heidi
The Republican Party is becoming more irrelevant all the time (witness the dearth of conservatives, the lack of political savvy, the unwillingness to defend their own in the same way that the Democrats do). So my question now is: Should conservatives try to reclaim the Republican Party, or champion some other party and turn the Republicans into a "third party"?
David
Heidi, that’s not an easy question. The Republican Party ceased being a conservative party long ago. I think conservatives should get behind conservative candidates whether they be Republicans, independents, etc. It may be that the Republican party will become entirely useless.
My only point here is that in this election, it came down to only two real candidates, one being utterly unacceptable in every way, an enemy of all that is right, and the other being far less than ideal, but in all ways preferable to his opponent. Those being the only real-world choices, the choice was obvious.
lewsta
My state (WA) is solidly democrats, and we suffer for it. Thus, a vote for either of the two main party candidates would have been a mute vote. I had intended voting for McCain anyway until he stood and voted FOR the insanity of the $700B bailout of foolish and dishonest businesses at OUR expense. So, Baldwin got mine. First time since I wrote in Mickey Mouse years ago. I have to agree with your assessment we remain a race-oriented people. How many millions voted O simply because of the colour of his skin? And how does this differ from voting against him for the same reason? How is it racist to vote against, but fine to vote for, both for the same reason? You are spot on, when we totally disregard race as an issue, to the point it is not even mentioned, we will be free of racism.
I have been hoping, against hope, that the issue of Obama's questionable birth status will be thoroughly examined and found wanting. Of course, you do realise that if this happens, we post racist Americans well see the biggest race riots and related terrorism imaginable. But I somehow think even this will be a good thing. Perhaps it will pop the bubble in which we live, proving beyond any doubt we've not yet dealt with the "race" card. Personally, though, I seriously doubt enough people in the appropriate places will have sufficient spine to be unmoved by popular opinion to thoroughly investigate the natural birth issue and act unwaveringly upon the findings. SUch spine is sadly lacking in this culture. Far too many years of effeminisation have passed for that level of courage to exist within government. Though one can yet hope......
Barry
I just stumbled across this today, but it's great (I am no lover of soft, gentle words).